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Sharma, a very good morning to you.
[00:10:14] Speaker B: Good morning.
[00:10:15] Speaker A: So you said Bill 34 doesn't go far enough on AI chatbots. Let's start from there. What exact rules do you want the federal government to add?
[00:10:24] Speaker B: Yeah, so we wanted the chat bots in light of what happened in Tugbo Ridge and that story about OpenAI having had information about the shooter and those employees that reported to their management that something should be reported to the police and nothing was happened. Nothing happened. In light of that, what we asked the federal government for was to have a mandatory threshold for reporting so companies aren't deciding themselves when they report things to the police. So we can prevent kind of serious harm and some tragedies from happening. Again, that it's not included in the bill as my understanding is they're not setting that through some kind of mandatory threshold reporting through this legislation. So that's where it doesn't go as far as we wanted it to.
[00:11:12] Speaker A: If the federal government does not include that in their bill, would the province step in and take Metros into its own hands?
[00:11:21] Speaker B: Yeah, we will obviously we'll look at that to see if there's something we can do to fill that gap. We asked for quite a bit from the federal government and a lot that we asked for is there, including the social media ban for young people, regulations for AI protection of the child. So setting a standard to say, how do you protect a child? What is safe? Like, what's safe? Social media and AI and certainly safety means the kids are not going to be exposed to predators, that kids are not going to be exposed to things that lead them to self harm or suicide or mental health issues. They're not going to be sent these like addictive algorithms that keep them hooked, that damage their brains and mental health. And I want them to set that clear standard. But a lot of what's in the bill is left to regulations and left to the regulators. So there's a lot of work that needs to be done. First of all, it needs to be passed and then we'll see how that goes. Because they've had some failed attempts before, but once it passes, there's a lot of work for the regulators and the regulations. So we want to be at the table to make sure that children are safe and there's standards that are set out, make sure of that.
We've been doing a lot of work here in bc.
We even had a table with some of the biggest, all the biggest social media platforms. We sat down and said, what is safe? What is safe by design, not just event. And so we have suggestions that we want to be at the table at the federal level to work on this
[00:12:47] Speaker A: together, because a lot of those details have been left for the Digital Safety Commission, which is of course to be appointed after the bill passes. So this looks like a pretty long road and with the kind of timeline that it entails right now. What do you think of that? Like how?
Yeah, because it could be almost a year and a half before things are implemented.
[00:13:08] Speaker B: Yeah, you exactly nailed it. Kids can't wait. People can't wait. I have met with far too many parents that have lost a child and their stories are just tragic. And what it says to me is it can happen to anybody. Right now, kids are at risk. And that's clear. Companies are experimenting on their mind, they're making profit off of it.
It's unacceptable. And so they need to move quickly on this. I agree with you.
And what's set out now is leaving a lot to regulation. So once this passes, we're calling on them to move very quickly and setting up that regulator like you said, and making sure that the safety protections are put in place quickly. AI is moving very, very fast.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: Do you agree with the Heritage Minister's assessment that we cannot really ban AI chatbots for kids under 16 because they've got an educational role as well to play? The AI chatbots Do you agree with that assessment?
[00:14:05] Speaker B: You know, I talked to him about that, why that wasn't included in the ban and I understand his reasoning. Social media platforms, we know year from years and years of experience that it is harmful, it needs to be banned. And for AI, it's different. It's different, right. It could be used for education or not, and it's unclear, but they are regulating it for safety.
What I think is that it's developing so quickly that if there needs to be something put in place that is just a ban or keeping certain minds, young people away from it, we need to be able to act quickly. And unfortunately it would be because of the way the legislation is. It would have to be by new, different legislation because right now it doesn't include it. Maybe they can buy regulation, but I think we need to be nimble, we need to be quicker than what we have been when it comes to safety. Once we see that, you know, we need to put in stronger safety measures, we need to be able to do that fast.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: And there is a possibility that for AI chatbots, maybe there is a separate regulation or a separate legislation that could be coming forth.
Have you had any indications of that?
[00:15:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. I'm not sure they're planning to do that. I think once we have a Digital Safety Commission, which hopefully is quick, there's something about having a regulator in the space that maybe would lead to quicker action when things are problems are happening because then you could lead to more regulation or more better rules. So maybe that'll help set up the process. But I haven't heard about that. No, I think this is two pieces of legislation they're introducing. And so this is their answer at
[00:15:37] Speaker A: this stage, should the federal government move at this glacial pace and, you know, the Digital Safety Commission takes the 18 months or whatever number of months that it takes. You said earlier during our chat today that, you know, families and kids cannot wait and you know that that safety net is required now, not 18 months or six months or a year later.
What can the B.C. government do to protect kids under 16 while we wait for this federal law to actually pass and be implemented?
[00:16:06] Speaker B: Yeah, we've actually taken quite a few measures in B.C. with the tools that we have, particularly with what was happening with sexploitation. So the suicides that were leading to people, whether they were altered images or not, of having images of kids or adults and saying, if you don't give me money, I'm going to spread these, I'm going to tell your parents and then leading to really terrible consequences. We took really strong action with that, not only with our police investigations and going after them, but also with new legal tools that I introduced.
So we've always been focused on filling in any gaps right now that can increase safety for people.
We don't have the same tools as the federal government, but absolutely we'll continue to see what we can do. In the meantime, I do worry about those 13, 14, 15 year olds that are there right now. Parents are worried about that. I hear it all the time from parents that they don't know what to do. And there's a big fight with your kid about I want a phone, I want to go on TikTok, I want to go on Snapchat, I want to do all these things because my friends are and there should be a bare minimum guarantee of safety on all of those platforms. And what I would say is there's nothing stopping those platforms now. They know the writings on the wall, the rules are coming. There's nothing stopping them from changing now and making sure they put really strong measures in place. So we'll continue to work in B.C. for sure.
[00:17:31] Speaker A: Quick question also about the changes announced earlier this week about the ICBC knowledge tests. I mean it's great and highly convenient that tests could be taken at home for class five to eight for the knowledge test. But how does the online system prevent people from cheating or having someone else help them?
[00:17:48] Speaker B: Yeah, a really important question. The technology is actually very advanced in this. What we don't realize is even lawyers studying to finish their bar exams. It's done online with this type of technology because it's very good at detecting cheating.
What it does is it they'll take a picture of your face before you start.
It can assess the focus of the person taking the test. So you can't. And it'll assess who's in the room. It can show exactly where your mouth is going as you're moving so you can't go to another browser to look something up or look down. And it very quickly will have infractions and disqualify you if you haven't met that their standards. So actually the cheating test online technology is pretty advanced and that's why we're pretty confident in it. The company that ICBC partnered with is doing this already online driver's tests in many states and parts of Canada and they've shown that they can be really strong against cheating.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: Is this going to be a wide angle camera? Because what if, you know the desk where my computer is sitting, I've got somebody Sitting under the desk and they are also looking at the screen. And then they could just be poking me. One poke is option A. Two pokes is option B. Three pokes is option C.
How do you go around that?
[00:19:09] Speaker B: Yeah, it detects if there's anybody in the room and can test that.
I think there's one thing we have to remember is that cheating always exists, even in person. There's always going to be somebody that's going to try to bring their phone in for the test, you know, avoid being able to give good answers. So we need in person cheating detection as well as online. And the online technology can detect if there's somebody else in the room.
So there's different ways that it's been quite advanced to make sure that if there are infractions, you're just disqualified from taking the test. And they actually, I was told on the first day of even launching it that they had a couple disqualifications based on that. So it's just, it really can detect. And just keep in mind that this is being used even for lawyers taking their bar exam at this stage, this level of technology.
[00:20:03] Speaker A: Could the disqualification be contested? Could the person say, no, I wasn't cheating. There was nobody else. The system got it wrong.
[00:20:11] Speaker B: Well, their opportunity then is to figure out how they can do the test again without cheating.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: And what if in the middle of the test, and this is, I mean, you know, in the rare instance that the Internet connection goes down or there is a power cut, what happens then? Does the person get a refund? Do they get to restart from where the test stopped? What happens then?
[00:20:31] Speaker B: If there are technical issues, then of course the person has a valid reason for not being able to finish the test. That would be. We would support them through that.
But you know, the systems are actually very conveniently, you can do it at different times. I think one of the pains that people had is they'd have to schedule it and figure out how to get out of school or get out of work to go down and do this test. And then we also had the tying up in the offices, right? People want convenient services that they wait for. So this is a way of making it so people do it when and where they can. Of course, you need a good Internet connection and a camera and all these things. But that, it just takes that pressure off of our offices.
[00:21:14] Speaker A: And also my last question, why not just send. If somebody takes the test online and they clear the test, why not just send them their learner's permit through mail? They still have to visit an icbc.
[00:21:26] Speaker B: Office.
Yeah, we need to.
[00:21:28] Speaker A: Why not just send them their learner's permit through mail? They still have to visit an ICBC office.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we need to verify verify eyesight. So that's something we can't do online. You have to have Meet the Eye test.
But you know, we had our first student demonstrate. It's actually pretty convenient to go in and do that. Of course. That's a safety measure that we need to do. Right.
And verify identification and then they get their learners.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: Yeah, sorry. Please, please go ahead. Please finish.
[00:22:00] Speaker B: That's it. I'm done.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: Okay, well, that's all the time we have for today as well. Thank you so much. Have a good day.
[00:22:05] Speaker B: Yeah, you too. Bye.
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